» My experience with mister the Bauer - what should not be done when tuning an ep3, absolutely not!!

Matz CTR · 14.09.2012, 11:40

My oil feed was different, so he lied with that. And my manifold was broken too, so he lied again he is a pic of my manifold:
http://www.maxrev.de/meine-bht-erfahrung-plus-neuaufbau-turbotoy-sar-turbotechnik-t238053,start,210.htm

olivenoire · Senior Anmeldedatum: 11.04.2012 Beiträge: 226

I can see exactly the same problem!!

I wonder when he says it is good, he really think he is in the good way!!
Incredible!

white-shark · 14.09.2012, 13:36

Am besten alle mal einen 9Sitzer von Sixt mieten und hinfahren....

Ottimoto Racing · 14.09.2012, 13:40

why you dont share this pictures on his facebook site?
or is it a bad idea ?

(sorry for my bad englisch ^^ )

so can anybody see what a piece of shit he bulid...

Matz CTR · 14.09.2012, 16:52

He should not do this until his lawyer says it is no problem. If you dont need the car I would definately try to get some money back. The car has now most propably less worth than before without turbo!

hondaapi · 14.09.2012, 18:34

You´ll never get your money back from him. Never ever ...
I know so many people with problems like this. I saw people spending roundabout 12.000Euro and recieving completely destroyed engine, turbocharger, injectors, flywheels and so on and so on.

Even after the person won the lawsuit after more than 1,5years he never saw a cent.

We all know that problems on a buildt can occure. We all are just humans. But than a shop needs to talk to his customers and has to try to find a way to solve the situation.
A business should be run in a honest way.

But for what this guy is doing I got no understanding. I got no understanding for the disrespect he treats his customers.
Shops like this are a shame for the entire tuning industrie.
This is why turbo tuning has a bad reputation.

This really has to come to an end. And honestly I hope that one day he´ll get all the bad things back .... It is a shame, it is a shame ... that is all I can say.

But what I do not understand is why don´t people look into the shop when they bring theire cars?
Why do they not take a look at the working area, the engine disassembly area, engine assembly area, welding area, fabrication area?

I think if a shops looks nice and clean, if there are different separated areas, the shop cars are nice, clean and look professional, other customers cars look professional that says a lot of the shop´s average work.

For example: If I would see crankshafts laying around on a dirty floor, see a dirty and messy working bench that usually says that these guys do not care about a clean engine assembly.
If I would not see a separated and clean welding area that shows that these guys know nothing about professional welding.

I would also take a look on the way the entire shop is organized. Where the parts are stocked. How many parts are stocked.

Well, big part stocking are way too expansive for such small shops that earn money with building cars, but an adequate and well organized stocking means that the shop is able to offer fast replacement if something gets demaged or a problem occurs.

Just my thoughts....

olivenoire · Senior Anmeldedatum: 11.04.2012 Beiträge: 226

TrenDeejaywhy you dont share this pictures on his facebook site?
or is it a bad idea ?

not until the lawyer tell me what to do

@ Matz : you are right. I will not move. I think this business will die in next future...
And you are right too, spending the price for a tuning and divide his value by 2...

@hondaapi: you are all right too. Believe me, I was too far. In fact I understood my mistake when I arrive in this poor garage... And it was confirmed when reading stories from Maik and Matz. First pictures sent confirm it will be a "rampage"... but too late
Is German law so cool for this kind of business? I can't believe!
About disrepected of his customers : I think this man won't go to long enough to school to learn basis.He dont know welding, mechanical or whatever but undestand his business. Catch some cash fast, denegate all problem thinking people spent so much money in tuning it will left nothing for an lawyer...

Actually I'm calculate the price of an action, but like you said, if it is to win and do never recover the money...

hondaapi · 14.09.2012, 20:01

The problem is that for this kind of work there is no defination of what is junk and what is quality.
You paid for a "custom buildt" and not a for a clear defined product.
That means you paid for a "turbo setup" and you recieved a "turbo setup".
You paid for a BHT setup and you recieved one.
The "quality" does not matter in that case.

Tasty_Wonton · 14.09.2012, 21:22

Well if you look close enough at his personal Facebook profile, it says he gained a university degree at junior high school... :laugh:

whatever way he might have obtained that lol

Probably the same way he's gathered professional knowledge about fine, reliable builds.

olivenoire · Senior Anmeldedatum: 11.04.2012 Beiträge: 226

Everytime I think it is over... but I found some other pictures on my computer

After some km before I need to stop the car because of the broken manifold and forbidden to drive because of exhaust and catalysator not registered I took some pictures

For sure, I'm not too lean

I wonder if it is oil? Or what?? What do you think?

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Matz CTR General Name: Matthias Geschlecht: Fahrzeug: Honda Civic EP3 Turbo, Renault Megane RS Anmeldedatum: 03.12.2006 Beiträge: 3466 Wohnort: NRW	14.09.2012, 11:40 zitieren My oil feed was different, so he lied with that. And my manifold was broken too, so he lied again he is a pic of my manifold: http://www.maxrev.de/meine-bht-erfahrung-plus-neuaufbau-turbotoy-sar-turbotechnik-t238053,start,210.htm Gefällt mir Teilen twittern
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olivenoire Senior Anmeldedatum: 11.04.2012 Beiträge: 226	14.09.2012, 13:17 zitieren I can see exactly the same problem!! I wonder when he says it is good, he really think he is in the good way!! Incredible!
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white-shark Veteran Name: Marc Geschlecht: Fahrzeug: Honda ep3 Supercharged 1,7CDI Anmeldedatum: 22.03.2008 Beiträge: 639 Wohnort: Hameln	14.09.2012, 13:36 zitieren Am besten alle mal einen 9Sitzer von Sixt mieten und hinfahren....
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Ottimoto Racing Premium-Member Name: Mario Geschlecht: Fahrzeug: Turboshuttle, EJ6@Z6Turbo, EJ6 Daily, EG3 B16Turbo, EG4 B18Turbo, ED6 K24 Anmeldedatum: 26.02.2010 Beiträge: 9059 Wohnort: Magdeburg	14.09.2012, 13:40 zitieren why you dont share this pictures on his facebook site? or is it a bad idea ? (sorry for my bad englisch ^^ ) so can anybody see what a piece of shit he bulid...
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Matz CTR General Name: Matthias Geschlecht: Fahrzeug: Honda Civic EP3 Turbo, Renault Megane RS Anmeldedatum: 03.12.2006 Beiträge: 3466 Wohnort: NRW	14.09.2012, 16:52 zitieren He should not do this until his lawyer says it is no problem. If you dont need the car I would definately try to get some money back. The car has now most propably less worth than before without turbo!
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hondaapi Senior Anmeldedatum: 12.10.2008 Beiträge: 349 Wohnort: Schönebeck	14.09.2012, 18:34 zitieren You´ll never get your money back from him. Never ever ... I know so many people with problems like this. I saw people spending roundabout 12.000Euro and recieving completely destroyed engine, turbocharger, injectors, flywheels and so on and so on. Even after the person won the lawsuit after more than 1,5years he never saw a cent. We all know that problems on a buildt can occure. We all are just humans. But than a shop needs to talk to his customers and has to try to find a way to solve the situation. A business should be run in a honest way. But for what this guy is doing I got no understanding. I got no understanding for the disrespect he treats his customers. Shops like this are a shame for the entire tuning industrie. This is why turbo tuning has a bad reputation. This really has to come to an end. And honestly I hope that one day he´ll get all the bad things back .... It is a shame, it is a shame ... that is all I can say. But what I do not understand is why don´t people look into the shop when they bring theire cars? Why do they not take a look at the working area, the engine disassembly area, engine assembly area, welding area, fabrication area? I think if a shops looks nice and clean, if there are different separated areas, the shop cars are nice, clean and look professional, other customers cars look professional that says a lot of the shop´s average work. For example: If I would see crankshafts laying around on a dirty floor, see a dirty and messy working bench that usually says that these guys do not care about a clean engine assembly. If I would not see a separated and clean welding area that shows that these guys know nothing about professional welding. I would also take a look on the way the entire shop is organized. Where the parts are stocked. How many parts are stocked. Well, big part stocking are way too expansive for such small shops that earn money with building cars, but an adequate and well organized stocking means that the shop is able to offer fast replacement if something gets demaged or a problem occurs. Just my thoughts.... 1x bearbeitet
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olivenoire Senior Anmeldedatum: 11.04.2012 Beiträge: 226	14.09.2012, 19:21 zitieren TrenDeejaywhy you dont share this pictures on his facebook site? or is it a bad idea ? not until the lawyer tell me what to do @ Matz : you are right. I will not move. I think this business will die in next future... And you are right too, spending the price for a tuning and divide his value by 2... @hondaapi: you are all right too. Believe me, I was too far. In fact I understood my mistake when I arrive in this poor garage... And it was confirmed when reading stories from Maik and Matz. First pictures sent confirm it will be a "rampage"... but too late Is German law so cool for this kind of business? I can't believe! About disrepected of his customers : I think this man won't go to long enough to school to learn basis.He dont know welding, mechanical or whatever but undestand his business. Catch some cash fast, denegate all problem thinking people spent so much money in tuning it will left nothing for an lawyer... Actually I'm calculate the price of an action, but like you said, if it is to win and do never recover the money...
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hondaapi Senior Anmeldedatum: 12.10.2008 Beiträge: 349 Wohnort: Schönebeck	14.09.2012, 20:01 zitieren The problem is that for this kind of work there is no defination of what is junk and what is quality. You paid for a "custom buildt" and not a for a clear defined product. That means you paid for a "turbo setup" and you recieved a "turbo setup". You paid for a BHT setup and you recieved one. The "quality" does not matter in that case.
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Tasty_Wonton Senior Name: Gefahr in Verzug Fahrzeug: Kriks ED9 1,8l & EE8 1,6T Anmeldedatum: 01.07.2009 Beiträge: 307 Wohnort: Bodensee	14.09.2012, 21:22 zitieren Well if you look close enough at his personal Facebook profile, it says he gained a university degree at junior high school... whatever way he might have obtained that Probably the same way he's gathered professional knowledge about fine, reliable builds.
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olivenoire Senior Anmeldedatum: 11.04.2012 Beiträge: 226	15.09.2012, 15:32 zitieren Everytime I think it is over... but I found some other pictures on my computer After some km before I need to stop the car because of the broken manifold and forbidden to drive because of exhaust and catalysator not registered I took some pictures For sure, I'm not too lean I wonder if it is oil? Or what?? What do you think?
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