» My experience with mister the Bauer - what should not be done when tuning an ep3, absolutely not!!

olivenoire · Senior Anmeldedatum: 11.04.2012 Beiträge: 226

To share again something I've found when learning kmanager

Because my car suffer from this : when I release gaz pedal, during a fraction a time, the car to not cut directly the.. Here seems to be an explanation :
http://www.hondata.com/techk20boostprimer.html

Means in fat the car runs too lean (and this is why I have some knocking...)

It says : "Closed loop operation.

With the introduction of a wideband oxygen sensor for the K series the stock ECU can and does run closed loop at full throttle. While 14.7:1 is ok for a naturally aspirated vehicle it is far too lean for a boosted vehicle and will cause hesitation. Typically this hesitation occurs while rolling onto the throttle from a cruise and for several seconds after a gear change. Hondata eliminates this by switching to open loop based on manifold pressure."
This is one of my (multiple) problem...

turbotoy · 28.09.2012, 10:06

hey just found this thread today.

my warmest condolences!!!

in my eyes it's even worse than on matz ctr's civic. you risk your life every time you sit in this car. the only thing you can do, is to show your waste of money to the whole world. maybe all of you guys should open a facebook site to show this. one photo album per car. with a precious title. i'm telling you this as a privat person. not as a tuner. it's just your right to share your problems. the AGB's won't let you receive your money or a quality product... so try to prevent/protect other people from this

olivenoire · Senior Anmeldedatum: 11.04.2012 Beiträge: 226

You are right, because of AGB.
But here is a special case mister X did not think, because I do not live in germany,

I can attack in Luxembourg and not in germany. In this case AGB are not fully enfoceable (durchsetzbar??) regarding the tribunal or court
German is not my mother tongue... I was not supposed to understand everything_ so same for AGB
I can pretend of free european consumer support
I will put in the bath his friend at tuv sud because of fake certificate
etc
If all of this will not be a success, at least people will know at what kind of problem they will be exposed

Some people already contact me asking informations. Some people are legit when they are afraid of what will be do to their car. I pray for them

in fact he will remember my name for a long time

EJ9_Razor · Gesperrt Anmeldedatum: 28.08.2011 Beiträge: 2377

4) thats not your problem

and it´s illegal for his man, too

olivenoire · Senior Anmeldedatum: 11.04.2012 Beiträge: 226

EJ9_Razor4) thats not your problem and it´s illegal for his man, too

In a way, you are right
But in this case, the man at TUV SUD was able to provide a tüv certificate with identification number not present (welded) on the exhaust and does not register the catalyst which is not an original one.
Mister X said : say to Luxemburgish inspector it is an oem--->As a result of all of that, I'm unable to register the car. And so I'm unable to go on road.
If police catch me, they catch the car directly.
Fortunately, the manifodl is broken, the oil feed if defective etc... So I can't drive it.

And when I say to mister he have to send me back my original exhaust because of his mistake, he does not want.
SO i'm going to contact the TUV SUD administration.
That's it

And with all of this, mister X ask me to bring back the car to him, AT MY CHARGE... Excactly what i'm not suppose to do.

He should just come to catch my car, correct the problem and everything should be finished.

Instead of this, mister X thinks he is on the right way... How stupid idiotic bauer he is

Tornado47 · 28.09.2012, 16:32

Turbotoy, you are wrong: He can NOT exclude returning the money if he is unable to repair this stuff! Of course the problem here is, that nobody gave him a second - not to speak of a third - chance to improve his setup (which i totally understand).
But this has nothing to do with AGB as they must not interfere with german law!

I still think it should be possible to argument with your fear of your car beinf destroyed completely if you give it to him again,,,

olivenoire · Senior Anmeldedatum: 11.04.2012 Beiträge: 226

Yes, like my laywer said to me , he as a professional have to give a car in order to drive
If not and it is possible and things gone wrong, all the repair have to be done at HIS charge
That what he does not want when I said him the manifold is broken and the exhaust is not good
Initially I was ready to give to him an another chance.
But because i'm far away form him, this idiotic bauer thought he is protected
The only thing he says is I have to come to him (1000km) at my charge and he will have a look at my car
And an another 1000km when the car is done.

I refused because it is not my fault and do not have to pay or lost my time.
He refuses to send to me a truck to bring the car.

He should have to take at his charge like requested.
German law say it. And in this case, it is really easy to destroy his AGB.

And because all of this, i was not able to drive my car since 2 months.

When this story will be finished, I will give you many reply he is able to provide... Not honest

3500 viewing... not bad for a foreign thread

Matz CTR · 28.09.2012, 17:23

ZitatTurbotoy, you are wrong: He can NOT exclude returning the money if he is unable to repair this stuff! Of course the problem here is, that nobody gave him a second - not to speak of a third - chance to improve his setup (which i totally understand).

The problem is that the man is not allowed to repair the damaged things. As he has no master he is not allowed to weld, work on safety relevant pieces... so even if Mister X could he is not allowed to repair the car. Additionally his "garage" is not enlisted in the german "Handwerkskammer", which together with the missing master was the reason why a not small number of former clients need to go to the police to testify as a attestor (me included). There are still reasonable doubts that he does things he is not allowed to but I dont know how the process against him and his company turned out.

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olivenoire Senior Anmeldedatum: 11.04.2012 Beiträge: 226	24.09.2012, 20:41 zitieren To share again something I've found when learning kmanager Because my car suffer from this : when I release gaz pedal, during a fraction a time, the car to not cut directly the.. Here seems to be an explanation : http://www.hondata.com/techk20boostprimer.html Means in fat the car runs too lean (and this is why I have some knocking...) It says : "Closed loop operation. With the introduction of a wideband oxygen sensor for the K series the stock ECU can and does run closed loop at full throttle. While 14.7:1 is ok for a naturally aspirated vehicle it is far too lean for a boosted vehicle and will cause hesitation. Typically this hesitation occurs while rolling onto the throttle from a cruise and for several seconds after a gear change. Hondata eliminates this by switching to open loop based on manifold pressure." This is one of my (multiple) problem... Gefällt mir Teilen twittern Verfasst am: 24.09.2012, 21:49 zitieren Finally I learn the kpro and the kmanager Thanks to the data loggin, i can see injectors are at 55-60% BUT ignition advance is at 23 and even 24° at full throttle Friend say to me he can't undertand why I have only cam 0°. But the most incredible for him is how is it possible to pu 23 or 24° advance... Just crasy!!! Good to destroy the motor. I'm sur 200gr of boost are safer than 1° advance!!! Verfasst am: 25.09.2012, 14:54 zitieren This picture is useless, but just because I love the colors you see the original map (very agressive) and the corrected one (more conservative, with less less less advance and a little more fuel, in case I have to drive my car) Just for the eyes Just need a real map with cam 10-20-30-40-50... Maybe TT ... Need to make up my mind
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turbotoy Premium-Member Geschlecht: Fahrzeug: EJ9 @ offener Luftfilter Anmeldedatum: 21.03.2006 Beiträge: 950 Wohnort: Paderborn Meine eBay-Auktionen:	28.09.2012, 10:06 zitieren hey just found this thread today. my warmest condolences!!! in my eyes it's even worse than on matz ctr's civic. you risk your life every time you sit in this car. the only thing you can do, is to show your waste of money to the whole world. maybe all of you guys should open a facebook site to show this. one photo album per car. with a precious title. i'm telling you this as a privat person. not as a tuner. it's just your right to share your problems. the AGB's won't let you receive your money or a quality product... so try to prevent/protect other people from this
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olivenoire Senior Anmeldedatum: 11.04.2012 Beiträge: 226	28.09.2012, 12:52 zitieren You are right, because of AGB. But here is a special case mister X did not think, because I do not live in germany, I can attack in Luxembourg and not in germany. In this case AGB are not fully enfoceable (durchsetzbar??) regarding the tribunal or court German is not my mother tongue... I was not supposed to understand everything_ so same for AGB I can pretend of free european consumer support I will put in the bath his friend at tuv sud because of fake certificate etc If all of this will not be a success, at least people will know at what kind of problem they will be exposed Some people already contact me asking informations. Some people are legit when they are afraid of what will be do to their car. I pray for them in fact he will remember my name for a long time 1x bearbeitet
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olivenoire Senior Anmeldedatum: 11.04.2012 Beiträge: 226	28.09.2012, 14:25 zitieren EJ9_Razor4) thats not your problem and it´s illegal for his man, too In a way, you are right But in this case, the man at TUV SUD was able to provide a tüv certificate with identification number not present (welded) on the exhaust and does not register the catalyst which is not an original one. Mister X said : say to Luxemburgish inspector it is an oem--->As a result of all of that, I'm unable to register the car. And so I'm unable to go on road. If police catch me, they catch the car directly. Fortunately, the manifodl is broken, the oil feed if defective etc... So I can't drive it. And when I say to mister he have to send me back my original exhaust because of his mistake, he does not want. SO i'm going to contact the TUV SUD administration. That's it And with all of this, mister X ask me to bring back the car to him, AT MY CHARGE... Excactly what i'm not suppose to do. He should just come to catch my car, correct the problem and everything should be finished. Instead of this, mister X thinks he is on the right way... How stupid idiotic bauer he is
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Tornado47 Premium-Member Name: Max Strammer Geschlecht: Anmeldedatum: 25.01.2009 Beiträge: 11217	28.09.2012, 16:32 zitieren Turbotoy, you are wrong: He can NOT exclude returning the money if he is unable to repair this stuff! Of course the problem here is, that nobody gave him a second - not to speak of a third - chance to improve his setup (which i totally understand). But this has nothing to do with AGB as they must not interfere with german law! I still think it should be possible to argument with your fear of your car beinf destroyed completely if you give it to him again,,,
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olivenoire Senior Anmeldedatum: 11.04.2012 Beiträge: 226	28.09.2012, 16:54 zitieren Yes, like my laywer said to me , he as a professional have to give a car in order to drive If not and it is possible and things gone wrong, all the repair have to be done at HIS charge That what he does not want when I said him the manifold is broken and the exhaust is not good Initially I was ready to give to him an another chance. But because i'm far away form him, this idiotic bauer thought he is protected The only thing he says is I have to come to him (1000km) at my charge and he will have a look at my car And an another 1000km when the car is done. I refused because it is not my fault and do not have to pay or lost my time. He refuses to send to me a truck to bring the car. He should have to take at his charge like requested. German law say it. And in this case, it is really easy to destroy his AGB. And because all of this, i was not able to drive my car since 2 months. When this story will be finished, I will give you many reply he is able to provide... Not honest 3500 viewing... not bad for a foreign thread 2x bearbeitet
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Matz CTR General Name: Matthias Geschlecht: Fahrzeug: Honda Civic EP3 Turbo, Renault Megane RS Anmeldedatum: 03.12.2006 Beiträge: 3466 Wohnort: NRW	28.09.2012, 17:23 zitieren ZitatTurbotoy, you are wrong: He can NOT exclude returning the money if he is unable to repair this stuff! Of course the problem here is, that nobody gave him a second - not to speak of a third - chance to improve his setup (which i totally understand). The problem is that the man is not allowed to repair the damaged things. As he has no master he is not allowed to weld, work on safety relevant pieces... so even if Mister X could he is not allowed to repair the car. Additionally his "garage" is not enlisted in the german "Handwerkskammer", which together with the missing master was the reason why a not small number of former clients need to go to the police to testify as a attestor (me included). There are still reasonable doubts that he does things he is not allowed to but I dont know how the process against him and his company turned out.
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